Comments on: Good and Bad CSS Identifiers http://konstruktors.com/blog/design-suggetions/4-good-and-bad-css-identifiers/ Observing the Web and Thinking About Design Tue, 13 May 2008 03:20:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Wolf’s Little Store » Semantic class names - get real http://konstruktors.com/blog/design-suggetions/4-good-and-bad-css-identifiers/#comment-39 Wolf’s Little Store » Semantic class names - get real Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:41:05 +0000 http://konstruktors.com/blog/various-topics/4-good-and-bad-css-identifiers/#comment-39 [...] kind of blog post pisses me off. This is written by the kind of people that just read Trancending CSS and feel [...] [...] kind of blog post pisses me off. This is written by the kind of people that just read Trancending CSS and feel [...]

]]> By: hellyeahdude.com http://konstruktors.com/blog/design-suggetions/4-good-and-bad-css-identifiers/#comment-23 hellyeahdude.com Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:37:25 +0000 http://konstruktors.com/blog/various-topics/4-good-and-bad-css-identifiers/#comment-23 Very well said. This is very similar to things that Vihn Khoi has said. I find him to be very inspiring. He states that there is not too much room for design when it comes to information. There is a lot that he says that you might find interesting. Obviously, I won't go into it, because I cannot say his words as well as he can. But check him out, subtraction.com I am really excited or font embedding in all browsers! That will be the next big thing for me! I am a SIFR fan, but not a flash fan! haha. But you have a very good writeup, I would lovet o see us team up in the near future, since we are similar in style, writing, interests and opinions. Contact me about what we can do! Podcast with me and a couple other designers? Its going on, if you would like to join, let me know! Very well said. This is very similar to things that Vihn Khoi has said. I find him to be very inspiring. He states that there is not too much room for design when it comes to information. There is a lot that he says that you might find interesting. Obviously, I won’t go into it, because I cannot say his words as well as he can. But check him out, subtraction.com
I am really excited or font embedding in all browsers! That will be the next big thing for me! I am a SIFR fan, but not a flash fan! haha.
But you have a very good writeup, I would lovet o see us team up in the near future, since we are similar in style, writing, interests and opinions. Contact me about what we can do! Podcast with me and a couple other designers? Its going on, if you would like to join, let me know!

]]> By: Kaspars D. http://konstruktors.com/blog/design-suggetions/4-good-and-bad-css-identifiers/#comment-22 Kaspars D. Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:48:38 +0000 http://konstruktors.com/blog/various-topics/4-good-and-bad-css-identifiers/#comment-22 Patrick, I absolutely agree with you that code validity is not the most important thing and shouldn't affect the design decisions nor should it be perceived as a measure of design quality. However, there is a good reason for having a defined set of standards for the web content, as it is meant to be device and media independent. At the same time it is very confusing that building a valid website doesn't mean anything even today, because it is very likely that it will look different in most of the browsers. In fact there are very few HTML and CSS limitations that are true "design limitations" for the graphic designers. It is the slow progress of CSS adaptation and implementation among major browsers which is the real obstacle. Despite all that, I think it is possible to achieve a good and sensible balance between valid code and complex design solutions. It just a matter of personal taste and understanding of what the particular HTML elements mean and how they can be used to achieve the specific needs. CSS3 is huge step forward, but how many years it will take until designers will be able to rely on it? Patrick, I absolutely agree with you that code validity is not the most important thing and shouldn’t affect the design decisions nor should it be perceived as a measure of design quality.

However, there is a good reason for having a defined set of standards for the web content, as it is meant to be device and media independent.

At the same time it is very confusing that building a valid website doesn’t mean anything even today, because it is very likely that it will look different in most of the browsers.

In fact there are very few HTML and CSS limitations that are true “design limitations” for the graphic designers. It is the slow progress of CSS adaptation and implementation among major browsers which is the real obstacle.

Despite all that, I think it is possible to achieve a good and sensible balance between valid code and complex design solutions. It just a matter of personal taste and understanding of what the particular HTML elements mean and how they can be used to achieve the specific needs.

CSS3 is huge step forward, but how many years it will take until designers will be able to rely on it?

]]> By: hellyeahdude.com http://konstruktors.com/blog/design-suggetions/4-good-and-bad-css-identifiers/#comment-18 hellyeahdude.com Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:29:23 +0000 http://konstruktors.com/blog/various-topics/4-good-and-bad-css-identifiers/#comment-18 Very nicely written, I think there is a lot of change needed to be had in the W3C world. While, most of the more creative content does not validate, the content other designers find to be elite are the designs that do "validate". It's stupid, I would rather have the non-validating, css broken, creative theme... Than a boring "this validates" geek style. :) Very nicely written, I think there is a lot of change needed to be had in the W3C world. While, most of the more creative content does not validate, the content other designers find to be elite are the designs that do “validate”.

It’s stupid, I would rather have the non-validating, css broken, creative theme… Than a boring “this validates” geek style.

:)

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